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An Interview With the
Paterfamilias of Pop-up
Part One of Three
On August 25, 2001 Waldo H. Hunt was interviewed at
Intervisual Books in Santa Monica, California. The
interviewer was Kate Sterling, movable book dealer at
www.popupparadise. com
K: This is the second time I've seen the wonderful pop-up
books you have on display in the Intervisual offices, the
first time being during the Movable Book Society
Convention in 1998. I understand you're working on
finding a permanent museum for your collection. How is
that going?
W: Well, we have a lot more than you've seen. We're
working on it and we have a number of opportunities. Not
just the antique pop-up books, but books showing the
whole history of pop-ups, including the best of the
contemporaries. We have a number of opportunities for
the museum. We'd like to have it in Santa Monica, the
pop-up capital of the world, and the city is supportive of
that effort. As you know, I also gave U.C.L.A. a collection
of over 500 pop-up books ten years ago, including a lot of
original Meggendorfers. Between what I have and what
they have, I think we have the best collection of movables
in the world.
K: It would be wonderful to give more people an
opportunity to see the collection.
W: There's a lot of interest. Huell Howser did a half-hour
tour of the collection for his TV show. As a result of his
visit, we were booked for nine months in advance for tours
by school children. We also get a lot of tourists. So that's
what I'm dedicated to doing - getting a real museum
where we will be able to bring school classes, show them
how to make pop-ups and give them a tour. There's also
a six-month exhibition of my pop-up books at the
downtown Los Angeles Public Library, in the Getty Room.
Most of the people who come to see the books want to buy
something, so we'd also like to have a gift store.
K: What can you tell me about Harry Potter?
K: OK, I'm glad to hear that. You've given many women
opportunities to work in the pop-up field. But how did you
get the rights to do the Harry Potter pop-up books?
W: Well, it was through a long association with Warner
Brothers. We produced the Wizard of Oz from the original
film of the 1939 movie. We had to do a tremendous
amount of retouching - taking the old movie film and
getting a book out of it. It's a beautiful book. And we have
a CD of Judy Garland singing "Over the Rainbow" and
"Follow the Yellow Brick Road" in the book. With that
book, we earned a shot at Harry Potter.
K: There are so many aspects of producing a product
you're happy with. There's^producing a book that will sell
and also has value to the child. And keeping all your
people working. I can tell you feel a lot of passion about
that.
W: I do. And I have to tell you one other thing. The secret
of my success is to have a strong ego. And I want you to
know that, in addition to all the nice things you have said
about me, I am the family Bar Room Baritone. I have a
retained position in the family. But everybody's got to be
half drunk. Then I sound good.
K: That will work. I'm a little hard of hearing. But I do
have to start doing what I'm here for - asking you some
questions about your life and how you got started
producing pop-up books. So why don't I start at the
beginning. Where did you grow up?
W: It's a long story. I was born in Chicago. I lived in
King City, California, where my dad was the minister of
the Congregational Church. King City had a population of
about 5,000. Do you know where it is? It's south of
Salinas - Steinbeck country. It's the red bean capital of the
world. And from there we moved to Salt Lake City. My
father became the minister of the First Unitarian Church
of Salt Lake City. We were there for 10 years until I was
12, when we moved to the San Francisco Peninsula.
Burlingame is my family home. I went to school there - to
San Mateo High and San Mateo Junior College. And then
briefly to Stanford.
W: Harry Potter is a girl.
Continued on page 2
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K: What were your interests in school?
W: I'm a writer. When I was in the Boy Scouts, I did a
monthly publication for my troop. I used to type it up and
make copies with that old gelatin - what do you call it?
And when I started high school my father didn't want me
to have just college preparatory classes, so I took print
shop. One hour of print shop a week and band and typing.
If you took only one hour of print shop old Mr. Morris,
who ran the print shop, knew you weren't serious, that you
were just goofing off. So I would go in there and sit for an
hour with nothing to do. So I decided to produce the
Freshman Journal for San Mateo High. I edited and
published it every week.
K: What did you do when you finished school?
W: The war came along, and 1 went to work for a war
plant in San Bruno called Eitel-McCulloch that made
radar tubes. That was pretty critical at that time, you
know. That was one of the things we had that the Japanese
didn't have - radar for the ships and the planes. So I got
a number of deferments. I was a foreman in the chemical
department, but 1 also produced the company magazine,
the Eimac News, a 24-page pictorial weekly. When I went
overseas, that magazine followed me everywhere. It was
amazing. It was like a lifeline. We sent it out to every
employee who had a son, boyfriend - anyone who was
overseas in the Navy or the Army got a weekly copy of the
Eimac News, so that was a real thrill. Being a writer, I
loved copy. I got paid a hundred dollars a month extra for
producing the magazine, so I was a very wealthy young
man. I was making $350 a month in 1943 - 44, a lot of
money. Then I went into the Army where I was making
$15 a month.
K: And you ended up in France?
W: I managed to get over to Europe for the invasion of
Southern France, Marseilles. It was the Seventh Army.
When we passed over the Rhine and into Germany, we
became part of General George Patton's Third Army. I got
a battlefield commission shortly before the end of the war.
K: That means you were made an officer.
W: Yes. And because 1 was an officer, my division came
home in '45, but I got home in '47. They had a rule if you
were an officer about how soon you could come home,
depending on how long you had been an officer and how
long you had been overseas. The reason for that is that they
had been anticipating an invasion of Japan, so they wanted
to leave the young, inexperienced officers in Germany for
the occupation, so I was there through '47. I had the most
amazing experience because so many officers had been sent
home. There was a great shortage of officers. At one point,
I was the trial judge advocate of the Fourth Armored
Division and I was prosecuting murder cases with no legal
experience.
K: Wow, what a lot of responsibility. Did you have
guidelines for the rules of evidence and that sort of thing?
W: Well, I must say that the officers who sat on the courts
marshal were pretty good. "Lieutenant, you're leading the
witness." You know, I was bushy tailed at 27 years old. They
were general courts marshal, so you had six senior officers
who were the jury . Fortunately, I didn't get any convictions.
I didn't have to live the rest of my life saying, "My god, I
hung that poor guy by his neck until he was dead." But it
was a fascinating experience. I was also head of an
engineering regiment that built bridges. During my last year
in Europe, I was the Post Exchange and Commissary Officer
for an area between Stuttgart and Munich. They were
bringing the American families in and I was in charge of all
the post exchanges and all of the food. I set up gas stations
on the Autobahn. There are two of them still on the
Autobahn between Stuttgart and Munich, and snack bars
and beauty shop, ice cream factory. I did all this with cartons
of cigarettes, because a carton of cigarettes costs a dollar,
and was worth $20 on the black market. We bought all the
lumber and paid all the workers, the Germans, with
cigarettes. That's how you got things done. I had this empire
for a year and then I came back and I couldn't get a job in a
gas station. Well, it wasn't quite that bad.
K: Is that when you did a spin as a disc jockey?
Continued on page 13
Frankfiirt Book Fair 2001
Part One of Two
Theo Gielen
The Netherlands
The Frankfurt Book Fair 2001 opened on October 10,
just less than a month after the terrorist attacks of
September 11 th . Before the opening there were a lot of
rumors about how many publishers (particularly
American) would cancel their attendance at this year's
Fair. Though we could understand their fear of flying, we
were eager to learn if we would see enough of the newly
planned projects to stay informed about the worldwide
state of affairs of movable and pop-up books. After all, the
world of pop-up and novelty books appears to be, for the
greater part, an Anglo Saxon business.
Our fears proved unfounded. All the major American
publishing houses did attend and, curiously enough, it was
some of the publishers from the far east (Japan, Australia)
that did'n come since they didn't trust flying either one
way (via the USA) or the other (via the middle east) to get
to Frankfurt. They stayed home. The awful events of
September 1 1 th were the talk of the day and resulted in a
lot of extra security measures. They also overshadowed the
Fair since so soon after the event it was not clear what
economic consequences the attacks would have. And a
large scale book event such as the Frankfurt Book Fair is
first of all a place of business.
In our opinion the general state of the world economy
and its uncertainties (even before the events of
September), and the enduring high exchange rates of the
US dollar and the pound sterling are to blame for this
year's rather disappointing level of pop-ups. A look at
what I saw in Frankfurt continues last year's impression
of a decreasing market for special, deluxe pop-up books in
favor of the more marketable, lower priced toddler's books
with simple mechanisms for a mass market. Surprisingly
it was some of the (eastern) European publishers who had
this year's most collectable items!
The first thing at the Fair that dampened my
enthusiasm was the news that Carvajal (Cargraphics) had
stopped their hand assembling of pop-up books in both
Colombia and Ecuador. As a result, they did not attend the
Fair and so I painfully missed my usual first stop at their
stand. They previously showed the most spectacular books
of the preceding year's production and by doing so they
offered me a first orientation in the field. The people of
Carvajal told me last year they felt the rivalry of cheaper
production in the far east (China, Hong Kong), but they
were confident that packagers and publishers would
continue to find their way to South America for the
production of the more complex paper artwork.
Unfortunately, the cost has now increased so much that
they have discontinued production. What a pity they had
to stop after over 30 years of producing all of the
highlights of the "Second Golden Age" of movables and
pop-ups. And also a pity that the experience the company
built up in all those years will disappear! Who will write the
1968 to 2001 history of this leading company? Who will do
the bibliography of all items that they have done (books,
inserts, LP- and CD-covers, pop-up postcards, etc.)? It would
also be the history and bibliography of all books, artists,
paper engineers, publishers and packagers of the period
Mark my words, in a short time we will find remarks like
"produced and hand-assembled at Carvajal, Colombia" in
the descriptions in antiquarian bookseller's catalogs as a
special recommendation of the quality of the offered item
(and as an argument for added value).
A second reason for disappointment was the absence of
Intervisual's Mr. Waldo Hunt for health reasons. After
almost 30 years Wally had to leave the honors to his
employees. So I also missed my other anchor in the
interminable flood of books. More than that, I missed the
much appreciated discussion of and evaluation of the new
items, the invaluable source of inside information and small
talk on the world of pop-ups, and last but not least the best
guide to the new projects offered by his leading company,
Intervisual Books. While he could not be replaced by his
always busy, negotiating workers, they gave me their special
Frankfurt catalog and the opportunity to go through the
published books and dummies at the stand.
At Intervisual Books, too, the tendency to produce lots of
toddler's books with simple mechanisms or just foil aimed
at mass market sales was clearly visible. 1 thought I heard
Wally saying, "We do produce for the market, not for the
collectors." I saw the twinkle in his eyes when I, in my
mind, answered that he could at least do one special
collector's item, with lots of paper artwork and a huge
number of glue-points, with large profits from sponsorship
of internal commercial booklets. Riposted by him, as usual,
with a, "What profit ...?" Make sure, Mr. Hunt, to attend
again in 2002!
Intervisual had on display a large number of books
produced earlier and described when seen as dummies last
year. The highlights for me were Rives' If I were a Polar
Bear (1-581 17-046-7) and Jennifer Laurence's Sad Doggy
(1-581 17-066-1), with its great illustrations by Tim Ewing.
New items, hitching onto the Harry Potter hype, were the
"Deluxe Pop-up Book" of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's
Stone and the 3-D carousel pop-up of Hogarths School,
proudly announced as having already sold over 600,000
copies worldwide in co-editions. Dummies were seen of a
(fifth) book in Krisztina Nagy's series of Fuzzy Bear books,
Fuzzy Bear 's Potty Book with lift-the-flaps, pop-ups, a place
for the child's photo and a toilet flushing sound; a third
sequel in the Icky Sticky-series, The Icky Sticky Chameleon,
illustrated by Jeff Mack; and two new Peek-a-Boo titles with
lift-the-flaps and die-cuts, illustrated by Salina Yoon, Farm
Animals and Wild Animals, both in a style heavily
reminiscent of Kees Moerbeek. Continued on page 12
Whizz and the Web
Hi-Touch Meets Hi-Tech
Adie C. Pena
Makati City, the Philippines
I received a rather unusual piece of mail some time the
second week of January. The logo on the square white
envelop was totally new to me. Inside was an enlarged
"interactive" facsimile of the logo. With one pull of a
string, the white oblong magically transformed into a
Christmas tree. I turned the card over and found a very
familiar address — Garden Cottage. Hmmm... very
familiar indeed. After all, for the past few years I've been
receiving unique holiday greetings from this address. But
what was this new logo all about?
Attached was a covering letter that answered some of
my questions. It began: "'My apologies for this rather
formal letter, and late Christmas card. As you might know
I am on my own again and have set up a new company
called Whizz Education Ltd." My eyes darted to the
bottom of the page and found Ron van der Meer's name
and signature. Can somebody please tell me what's going
on? How long have I been living under a rock?
The rest of Ron's note read: "We are working on a
massive educational book programme, which combines
our amazing and unique three-dimensional books with a
truly innovative website that is unrivalled by anyone in the
world. We are now in the position to be our own publisher
in the UK, thanks to our financial backers and an
inherited sales force of over 22,000. With new members of
staff and our own team of educational specialists we hope
to launch our project in September 2002. Apart from our
'usual' books we have some very ambitious plans for the
future and would like to share these with you at the
Bologna Book Fair."
I immediately sent an e-mail to the address I found on
the letterhead. I wrote: "This certainly is an interesting
development worth sharing with the rest of our pop-up
planet. Would you be amenable to a 'virtual' interview,
i.e. via e-mail, regarding Whizz for an article in Movable
Stationer)'!"' Ron replied positively a few days later. I
quickly transmitted a VERY short list of questions.
I began the e-nterview with this set of queries. "You
wrote in your covering note: 'As you might know I am on
my own again...' 'On your own again'? Pardon the
ignorance but when did this development occur? What
happened to PHPC? What about the 'Ron van der Meer'
brandname? Who now 'owns' the titles in your old
catalogue?"
Eight days later, Ron's reply arrived via e-mail. He
wrote: "It is exactly a year ago that I split up with
Holland. My brother and his team joined me in January 1997
and to cut a long story short, it did not work out. He is back
in his health clubs and I am back creating projects I love.
PHPC is still based in Holland and is using the backlist to
fulfil contractual commitments to publishers and to pay off
various debts. We have agreed that I will get my IP rights to
all the books, done in that period, back in 2 years time."
My second (and last) question was: "The name of your
new company is 'Whizz EDUCATION Limited' and you
make mention of 'a massive EDUCATIONAL book
programme' and your 'own team of EDUCATIONAL
specialists.' Why the emphasis on 'EDUCATION'? A
simple case of 'niche marketing' and/or 'brand positioning'
— or is it three-dimensional, interactive book 'art meets
altruism'?"
Ron replied: "My new company is moving in an exciting
new direction. For the last couple of years I have felt that as
far as pop-ups are concerned we reached a pinnacle,
especially with the Architecture Pack. How much more
informative can one make a book, how much more ingenious
the paper engineering, how much bigger and more
complicated can we get.
"As you know publishing is changing, a lot of
consolidation is going on, with fewer buyers and smaller
quantities. Because of that there are also now fewer players
and printers in our 'contracting' business.
"Of course there will always be a pop-up market and
there will always be the big one this year or next, but things
are changing around us and we have to either follow or lead.
"Our strength and speciality in the pop-up business was
and is to inform, use paper engineering to explain something
much better than words or pictures could, and only use it if
it made sense, we employ interactive elements to 'pull' the
reader into the subject, so that they are 'educating'
themselves without realising it and having fun at the same
time, and because of that our books have a 'retention' value
of over 70%, while it is only 20% for other books.
"Our strength is to make very complicated subjects
understandable, by breaking it down into 5 to 6 sections
(spreads) and cramming it full with short succinct writing by
our top authors, with up to 60,000 or more words. Our
readers do get value for money, in terms of information and
entertainment.
"With our new company we are combining this approach
and attitude to e-learning via the web. The web with its
enormous possibilities is in my opinion the future, especially
for people like us. Most publishers and web developers use
it mentally and physically like the early designers of the
motorcar, i.e., a horseless carriage with a motor, instead of
something completely new.
"In order to prove this I picked on a subject that we
have done in the past; something that was very successful
(we sold over 1.2 million books); is international and
reasonably black and white in logic. It's mathematics.
"We are going to produce over 20 books, 6 to 7
complicated ones and the rest of medium complexity, for
the 3 to 17 years of age, over a 2-year period. With it we
are developing a website that can cover any curriculum in
the world, is 100% interactive, uses artificial intelligence
that acts like a personal tutor to any child in the world of
any ability.
"Our website will be the only one in the world that
tests each child, for free, makes an assessment of that
child's strengths and weaknesses, writes an individual
programme based on that and the local or national
curriculum and continuously 'looks' over the child's
shoulder, assessing their performance and changing their
tasks and programme accordingly. We are your child's
virtual on-line tutor. No-one else does that.
"It is fully animated, each part of the programme is a
movie (up to 1 500 per academ ic year), it's fully interactive
with voice recognition for the very young, and caters for
the weakest computer. We are the only ones that explain
first, give them an exercise and if answered wrongly
instantly show them what they did wrong and how to do
it. If they don't understand it we go down a level or more,
instantly, until we know they understand it.
"Everything is recorded on their file, and we will be
able to give the parent, the teacher or the government,
information about the level of maths per child, per street,
school, state or country. We can let you know that
although the answer is wrong (say in a sum that
incorporates multiplication and division), your child did
understand the multiplication part, but had problems with
division. We will give your child some extra work on
division, straight away.
"We cater with our books and website mainly for the
home market. Our books will be distributed by our foreign
publishers, (I have six European countries lined up but not
the US yet) and apart from being interactive hands-on
books on their own, they do our advertising for the web as
well with a CD Rom in the front cover, that explains and
shows samples of the website. The CD also gives parents
automatic access to our site for a free comprehensive
assessment (duration approx. 45 min.) for their child.
"For this project I needed a team of designers, editors,
paper engineers, animators, Flash programmers,
educationalists, IT managers, an IT company to write our
data handling and create our 'engine' etc. Now you know
why I used the words 'massive.'
"We still managed to squeeze in a couple of other
projects. A prestigious one about the artist Alexander
Calder, his 'Circus' from the Whitney museum, for which
Mr. Len Riggio of Barnes and Noble, who is an art collector,
has committed himself with 30,000 copies, before he saw
anything and involves the family estate's agent Wildenstein,
who is organizing it. It coincides with a special exhibition in
November this year, which will then travel around the
world. We are also producing a collector's 'Deluxe' version,
greeting cards, special displays etc."
Whew!
I wrote in my original e-mail: "My succeeding questions
will be based on your replies." I didn't need another set of
follow-up questions. The man in the red shoes had said it all.
Hi-touch finally meets hi-tech. Two interactive media —
movable books and the internet — are about to collide
and merge. Wow!
The wizard of three-dimensional publications will soon
be WHIZZ-ing on the Web. Pop-up ladies and gentlemen,
welcome to the future.
Pop-up Exhibits
International Youth Library
The International Youth Library in Munich, Germany
will hold an exhibit of pop-up and movable books from June
21 to August 11, 2002. The titles, both historical and
modern, will be drawn from the vast resources of the library.
Information about the exhibition can be found on the web at:
<www.ijb.de>.
The library has a collection of nearly 500,000 books, with
470,000 volumes of children's and youth books in more
thanl30 languages and nearly 30,000 titles of secondary
literature. 1000 publishers from around the world send
sample copies of their latest titles to the library each year.
Approximately 9,000 books are cataloged annually.
Pop-up Exhibits
Osborne Collection
"This Magical Book: Movable Books for Children,
1771- 2001" will be held at the Canada Trust Gallery,
Toronto Reference Library, 789 Yonge Street, Toronto,
Canada from April 13 to June 9, 2002. Members of the
Movable Books Society are cordially invited to the
opening event, to be held April 12, 2002 at 6:30 p.m. at
the Canada Trust Gallery.
If you turn up the folds of this magical book,
And at its strange pictures attentively look,
You will conjure odd scenes which you ne'er saw
before,
And which at each turn will amuse more and more.
Transforming Performers. Dean and Son, [1874]
An exhibit of items from The Osborne Collection of
Early Children's Books, Toronto Public Library, this
display will range from harlequinades and peepshows to
volvelles and pop-ups, with 69 books and novelties. There
will be a 64-page illustrated catalog. Order information
will be posted soon on the Osborne Collection's website at:
<http://www.tpl.toronto.on.ca/osborne/home.htm>.
Los Angeles Public Library
"POP-UP! 500 Years of Movable Books: Selections
from the Waldo Hunt Collection" will be exhibited in the
Getty Gallery of the Central Library from August 24, 2002
to January 12, 2003. The library is located at Fifth &
Flower Streets in downtown Los Angeles.
The exhibit will feature approximately 300 antique and
contemporary interactive books from the world-renowned
collection of Waldo Hunt, touted as the "King of
Pop-ups." Highlights will include a 15th century Italian
astrology book, a copy of the world's best-selling pop-up
Haunted House by Jan Pierikowski, and a pop-up by Andy
Warhol.
The event is presented in association with Intervisual
Books, Inc. and is made possible by the Library
Foundation of Los Angeles.
A private reception will be held prior to the opening.
Invitations will be sent to members of the Movable Book
Society who live in the area and would like to attend the
reception. Please let Ann Montanaro know if you would
like to be included on the mailing list to receive an
invitation to the opening from the library.
I he pop-up Transamerica Corporation Tower in the
September 8, 1986 issue ofTime magazine, that is.
Victoria Gilbert, media director of the advertising agency
Delia Femina Travisano & Partners, brought along some
children's pop-up books to a client meeting, hoping to
convince the insurance company to run a three-dimensional
representation of the San Francisco skyline within the pages of
a widely-circulated weekly magazine. The Transamerica
executives bought her idea and the rest, as they say, is
history.
Just one of the numerous untold stories you'll be hearing
at the pop-up advertising exhibit, scheduled in the fall of 2002
at the Eisner Museum of Advertising and Design in Milwaukee.
Make your plans now for that much-needed (commercial)
break next September. And enjoy three days of movable
feasts, friends and fun!
MW
THE 4TH MOVABLE BOOK
SOCIETY CONFERENCE
SEPTEMBER 19 - 21 , 2002
MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN
Berlin Pack
The Best Pop-up of Frankfurt 2001
Theo Gielen
Michael Lewitscharoff, Das Berlin-Paket. Das
neue Berlin: Architektur, Kultur und Geschichte
der Stadt mit dreidimensionalen Bildern und
uberraschenden Effekten. Miinchen, Ars Edition,
2001. ISBN 3-7606-1842-6. Euro 59.00.
Undoubtedly the best pop-up book seen at this year's
Frankfurt Book Fair is The Berlin Pack: The New Berlin:
Architecture, Culture and History of the City with Three-
dimensional Pictures and Surprising Pictures. It is
proudly presented in nice displays and with supporting
computer presentation by the Munich-based publisher Ars
Edition. The company produced the German editions of
the Van der Meer packs and, apparently, they looked so
good to them that they have now come out with their first
pop-up project designed in-house with a similar style and
format.
The large
book (28.5x
28.5 cm.) and
thick (over
5cm.) lists
Michael
Lewitscharoff as
the author but
the imprint
shows that
almost twenty
people were
involved.
Sponsored by over 30 companies and organizations -
credited with their logos in a small booklet inside the front
cover - the book has grown into a superb promotional
item for the city. Berlin is again the capital of Germany,
the seat of government and parliament.
Berlin was divided by the Berlin Wall during the Cold
War, thus preventing the rebuilding of its center, ravaged
by the Second World War. The last ten years have shown
unprecedented building activities. The Berlin Pack shows
the provisional results but it also includes such historical
icons as the Brandenburg Gate, the famous
Friedrichstrasse, and the Reichstag.
The Text
The use of a small font permits the inclusion of a lot
of text. Interesting and detailed information is given about
the stirring history of the city that played such an
important part in European history: the cultural life, so
turbulent especially in the 1920's and 1930's; the period
when the city was divided in Berlin-West and Berlin
Capital of the German Democratic Republic and the frontier
between the two, the Berlin Wall; the museums and their
treasures from all over the world; the recreational aspects,
etc. It is an impressive and well-documented guide to Berlin
that even for your reviewer, who knows the city rather well,
offered a lot of new information. And, remarkable for this
promotional work, the black pages of the history of the city
are there as well. The Hitler years of the '30s and '40s, have
not been disguised. With over 1 00 colored and 40 black and
white pictures (illustrating the historical information) well
placed in the text, the contents are a pleasure to read.
The Design
As mentioned above, the design borrowed heavily from
the packs previously done by Ron van der Meer. It has the
same format and general look, same folding out half pages
that substantially enlarge the space available for textual
information and all kinds of extras (e.g. small pop-ups). It
has paste-ins and inserted small booklets and is aimed at an
adult readership.
Having said that, we must say that the staff involved has
done a great job and the result surely can compete with the
best ones done by Ron - a compliment in itself. The first
seven of eight (!) spreads have beautiful designs with
elaborate pop-ups in the center and a mixture of text and
pictures placed around. Additionally, all seven spreads have
half-page flaps to the left and the right side that add an extra
14 (!) pages used to build-in or hide all kinds of paper
artworks. Another benefit of these flaps is that they
ingeniously fill the space between the spreads as - only
partly - necessary to stow away the flattened papers of the
pop-ups. The overall result is a neat bookblock, an
acknowledged problem in most pop-up books!
Yet another way of enlarging the amount of information
is through the use of small booklets, pasted down (and neatly
held closed!) or inserted in pockets, nicely printed over with
exactly that part of the booklet so it disappears in the pocket.
The booklets are shaped, for instance in the form of the
outline of the remarkable building of the Berlin Symphony
Orchestra, designed in 1963 by Hans Scharoun. There is
even a miniature reprint of the menu of the legendary Hotel
Adlon.
A variety of movable and novelty techniques are used
including a pull-tab to slide in a window to see the building
activities at Potsdam Square from 1995-2001. An acetate
sheet with a black and white construction drawing of a
futuristic dome transforms when pulled out into a color
picture of the projection of the dome in the place where it
will be built. There are changing pictures in a Venetian
blind technique and a pull-tab that ingeniously opens the
picture of the Opera House to show the performance inside.
A trapped pull-out shows side-by-side the different states of
the density of buildings in the center of Berlin from the
plans of 1940, 1998 and 2000. A waggling picture enables
the Alfred Jackson Girls to dance their 1922 Can-Can.
The eighth spread has a panoramic plan of the center
of the city with all buildings illustrated in perspective and
marks the buildings (not yet built and finished projects)
presented in the earlier spreads. This spread also has a
128 mb CD-Rom that offers both a virtual walk through
the historical city center and lots of related historical video
and audio fragments, partly in English, amongst them
John F. Kennedy's speech with the famous "Ich bin ein
Berliner."
The Pop-Ups
After all my praise, the best part of the book still has to
be reviewed. The seven spreads offer gorgeous
architectural paper constructions. There is a beauty of a
Brandenburg Gate, the best-known icon of Berlin. The
four-in-hand on top seems to me a bit out of proportion
(too small) and the Prussian eagle on top
indistinguishable, but the whole unfolds magnificently and
all walls close precisely (as is seldom seen). From the
second spread pops the model of the massive skyscraper,
based on an unusual triangular ground plan, as designed
by the local architects Kollhoffand Jochimsen and built in
red bricks, reminiscent in its construction of the "set-back-
skyscrapers" built in the US in the 1930s. Again
everything has been carefully executed and not only the
facades - except of a small wall at the front (a pity since it
is rather annoying) - but also the arcades are in shape and
all roofs close. The inside of this model is visible and is
also printed in color.
Though the next spread has a very simple v-fold pop-
up, the choice for it seems well considered since it is
appropriate to show the deep perspective look in the
Freidrichstrasse as it will be once the renewal is finished.
Remarkable is the way the designers have used the
backside and the part of the spread behind the v-fold.
They did a collage of black and white pictures of this
famous street as it was in the "Golden Twenties," then the
center of nightlife, cinemas, and cabarets as we know it
from the books of Isherwood. The backside of the middle
part of the rising pop-up functions as a billboard and is a
gallery of movie and theater posters of the time. The
whole spread is an example of how simple paper artwork
using a clever design can have a great result. Pleasantly
daring!
The model of the Reichstag is another masterpiece of
paper engineering. The building once again houses, after
a break of almost 65 years (since 1933), the federal
German parliament. As a symbol of its openness it
recently got an all-glass dome. Hidden behind an
accompanying flap there is a paper model of this glass
dome, partly worked open to show its construction secrets.
The new Jewish Museum, built by the architect Daniel
Libeskind, gets a relatively small pop-up model but a very
tricky one since the floor plan of this gem of modern
architecture is so unusual. It can best be described as a flash
of lightning. Again, the model has been partially worked
open to show its internal structure.
The last two pop-ups show other specimens of the
modern architecture that have given Berlin a new look as a
21 st century metropolis. The building "Hackesche Market"
was inspired by the 19 th century ghettos where the working
class people lived. The model of the "Ludwig-Erhard-
House" has been worked open to show its innovative high-
tech construction, a masterpiece of paper-engineering.
As said, the half-page flaps enclose additional, small but
effective pop-ups: a model of the Greek Pergamon altar and
one of the famous Egyptian sculpture of Nefertiti, both
treasured at Museum Isle; another of a rounding classical
advertising-pillar, a "Litfass" as first designed in Berlin
1853, and more.
Together it is a great collection of high quality paper
artwork done by two young paper engineers who only
recently finished their studies. Stefan John (working under
his firm's name, Refeka GmbH in Munich) and Uwe
Leetsch. I was told this is their first book. For sure they can
be proud of it. Let us hope they will fulfill the great
expectations shown by this first work by doing more books.
Sanssouci
At the end of the pack there is another surprise, in a
built-in board drawer with a laid-in softcover booklet (20 x
20 cm.) giving mostly pictural information about one more
historical place strongly connected with the history of
Berlin, the palace of Sanssouci in Potsdam. Nice, soft-
focused pictures give an impression of the showpieces, the
palaces and garden architecture built by succesive kings of
Prussia from the 18* century onwards. In the center of the
book there is a fold-up, 90-degree pop-up of the sweetest of
these palaces, the Belvedere, that was the summer residence
of the kings and is situated on top of a architectural garden
of rising terraces. A beauty in itself, the palace and the pop-
up model!
The production and hand assembly of the Berlin Pack was
done in China and shows the maturity of the young Chinese
printing industry that only recently entered the pop-up
business. The standard set by Carvajal Colombia has surely
been equaled, I think, by this production, both in the
professional execution of the complex models and in the
final finishing touch of tissue guards to protect the models
and to prevent any sticking. A piece of foam has even been
inserted to fill a gap left by some paper that unequally
masses between the pages when folding down.
The Bigger the Better!
By Ellen G.K. Rubin
Scarsdale, New York
It took three of us to just open the cover! We were
frightened by the weight and delicacy of this special book
and somewhat too, by the fact we had climbed over the
yellow plastic "Keep Out!" strip which was supposed to
protect this unique object from interlopers . . . like us.
Looking furtively over our shoulders, Geraldine Lebowitz,
whose exhibition we were visiting, my sister, Rhoda
Klein, also a pop-up collector, (same DNA!) and I, the
curious and New York-pushy, Ellen G.K. Rubin,
proceeded to turn the 2.5 foot by 4 foot pages in order to
examine the six spreads of this humongous pop-up book.
When Ms. Lebowitz's exhibition, "Pop-up," left Ft.
Lauderdale's Bienes Library, it traveled to the Cornell
Museum of Art & History/Old School Square in Defray
Beach, Florida with additional books from the collection
of Will Ray. This past January, I visited Rhoda and we
went to see the exhibit. As luck would have it - and I am
always lucky when it comes to pop-ups - when we arrived,
coincidentally, so did Geraldine. I was grateful to meet
this serious collector and have her be the docent for her
own exhibition.
In a corner of one of the two exhibit rooms, was a
make-shift workshop. Here Roger Culbertson, paper
engineer and founder ofDesignimation, had been working
to build the world's largest pop-up book, Aesop's Fables,
illustrated by Peter de Seve. Based on the "Tell Tale
Theater" series by Running Press (1994), the original 6-
spread book was 2 inches by 4 inches with an audio tape
included. According to the Boca Raton/Delray Beach
News, (Feb 4, 2002), Joe Gillie, director of Old School
Square, had suggested Culbertson make a pop-up book to
show museum goers how it's done and, at the same time,
establish a world record. International Paper provided
oversized sheets of Carolina C 1 S Blanks, 24 point. (Sound
right, paper engineers out there?) Culbertson worked over
200 hours at the museum and at home. He had almost no
margin for error. "The ratio between the cover and gutter
space-the gap between the cover board and spine-had to be
exact in order for each 2-page layout to open flat."
"Because of the weight," Culbertson explained, " I had to
make the spine width as narrow as possible." There was
only one chance to make it work. Luckily, it did. I
suggested to him that pasting on the cover illustration was
probably like wallpapering.
Roger is hoping that THE BIG BOOK, as he calls it,
will be accepted into the Guiness Book of Records. This
would be a first both for pop-ups and paper engineers. The
application has already been filed. There are plans to
travel with the book to allow as many people as possible
to enjoy the wonder of it.
It was at Intervisual in
1979 that Culbertson cut
his teeth on pop-ups
working as a production
coordinator. His last job
there was to miniaturize
the six books in the
Piehkowski "Dinner Time"
series. Roger would agree
he has turned the telescope
of his life in pop-ups
around. I'm sure we all
wish him luck with this
new endeavor. I'll keep you
posted.
MenOpop
What's in store as 4,000 women per day embark on the
ride of their lives? Find out while laughing through the
quirkiest addition to pop-ups for adults, MenOpop, a
menopause pop-up and activity book.
Author Kathy Kelly was experiencing full-blown
menopause while her thirty-something partners wondered
aloud how to make it a more fun experience for everyone
involved. Their company, Fill *er Up Productions, Inc., is a
multimedia entertainment company providing cutting-edge
content for mainstream media. So the most obvious answer
became a retro pop-up book, illustrated by the sole male
member of the company, Peter Straus. "He nowhas honorary
ovaries," Kelly laughingly confides.
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MenOpop is engineered by Andrew Baron of Popyrus
and packaged by Zebra International Productions, Inc. A
sophisticated salute to the 1960's kitschy children's pop-up
books, MenOpop is chock full of automatic pops and
interactive mechanics. (And features quite possibly the only
pop-up womb printed in the last hundred years!)
MenOpop can be pre-ordered by mid-March 2002 (with
a projected shipping date of mid-April) exclusively through
<www.menopop.com>, a menopause entertainment website.
International Meeting of
European Pop-Up Afficionados
Theo Gielen
The biennial meeting of the European pop-up
specialists and collectors will take place on April 20, 2002
in the German town of Recklinghausen. At the last
meeting in Holland some German collectors and members
of the Movable Book Society offered to organize the next
meeting and they recently sent invitations.
The professionally-designed card, with an intricate
hand-made pop-up, outlines the inviting program for that
Saturday and gives the dates, program, and possibilities
for overnight accommodation in town, printed in both
German and English. A helpful plan of the town center is
marked "Kutscherhaus," where the meeting will take
place, completes the mailing. Invitations have been sent to
collectors in six European countries, but anyone who
wants to attend is welcome.
The theme for the meeting chosen by the organizers is
"Self-made: Another Kind of Pop-up." On the program
are presentations by Bodo Boden, a professor of
architecture from Bochum, Germany, showing
architectural pop-ups made by his students, and by Mr.
and Mrs. Tietz reading about their use of pop-ups as an
educational aid and showing the results made by their
pupils. Special guests on the program are the paper
engineer Antje von Stemm and artists Kees Moerbeek and
Carla Dijs, telling about, but especially showing their
works-in-progress. "Self-made" also includes the pop-up
artists' books presented by their maker Mrs. Astrid Feuser.
Responsible for a special German note in the program
will be Mr. Irmer, the specialist in the field of so called
"Patenbriefe," letters, typically German (?), with intricate
foldings that were given by the godfather at the baby's
christening. He will show selections from his unique
historical collection of this ephemera produced primarily
in the 19 th century. We are sure the promising program
organized by Dr. Friederike Wienhofer, Mr. and Mrs.
Ulrich, and Hildegard Tietz will be a wonderful
happening.
Participants are asked to bring a tunnelbook or
peepshow from their collection to tell about in the round
of introductions at the beginning of the meeting. Special
breaks have been planned for mutual acquaintance and
exchange of books, information, small talk, etc. The day
will be open-ended so participants can meet and drink
together after the program. We have heard that several
participants will be in Recklinghausen the night before for
informal contacts. Recklinghausen is situated in the
ultimate west of Germany not far from the Dutch border,
north of Cologne, easy to reach by all transportation.
Since the organization succeeded in finding a generous
sponsor, there is a fee of a mere five Euro ($4.50) asked for
the whole day.
Announcement of participation has to be done by self-
made pop-up card - the best of which will receive an award.
For those who didn't get an invitation but would like to
attend, please contact Dr. Wienhofer, Hillen 62, D- 45665
Recklinghausen, Germany. Tel 00 49 2361 44336. E-mail:
Ricki Wie@aol .com .
Julian Wehr Research
The Middle Tennessee State University (MTSU) Faculty
Research and Creative Activity Committee has awarded a
substantial research grant award to two librarians to
facilitate their efforts to reconstruct the life and
accomplishments of a forgotten master of American book
artistry and animation. Roy Ziegler, Librarian for
Acquisitions, and Dr. Alan Boehm, Librarian for Special
Collections, will receive $4,000 from the committee to cover
travel and other expenses associated with what they describe
as "The Julian Wehr Research Project."
In the 1940s and 1950s, Julian Wehr created and
published some 40 illustrated children's books that are
remarkable for their simple but clever pull-tab mechanisms
that make parts of the illustrations move back and forth and
up and down, often in m ultiple directions. Around 9,000,000
copies of Wehr"s books were sold in the United States and
Great Britain, and several titles were translated and sold in
France, Germany, and Spain. Although Wehr's "Animated
Books" are now prized by rare book collectors and are
attracting the attention of children's literature specialists,
Wehr himself remains an obscure figure. "Very little is
publicly known about Julian Wehr. He died in 1970 and his
wife Juliette died in 1993," says Ziegler. "It took Alan and
me four or five months before we finally put our hands on
biographical information that led us to their three children,
who've been incredibly gracious and willing to help us tell
the family story."
Special Collections currently holds 23 Wehr titles and
editions. "At this point in time," says Boehm, "I think we
have more Wehr books than any other academic or research
library. We're constantly looking for more and we'd like to
have a comprehensive collection, including the British and
foreign language titles." The Wehr books are part of the
Dimensional and Artists' Book collection, which includes
historical and contemporary pop-up books, movable books,
tunnel books, and other books that play with the form and
conventions of book production.
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Signals of a Pop-up
Revival in Eastern Europe
Theo Gielen
During the second half of the 20 th century a large
number of European pop-up books originated in eastern
Europe - especially Russia and Czechoslovakia. They
were done not only by the well-known Voitech Kubasta,
who did a lot of books now highly appreciated, but by
others, for example, Jiri Trnka, J. Pavlin and G. Seda. The
best of all, I think, were done in the 1960s by George
Theiner and Rudolf Lukes. They made graphical beauties
with movable parts that automatically move as the book is
opened, highly undervalued until recently.
In the second half of the 1980s the flood of Czech pop-
ups, published at the time in most European languages
stopped. And since only very few reprints of the Kubasta
books and some simple fan-folded pop-ups have been done
there since.
For a couple of years a modest revival can be spotted in
eastern Europe. A new start came in the mid-1990s from
Hungary when Lazlo Batki engineered some books for
Intervisual (King Arthur's Camelot, The Fairytale
Village), and also Krisztina Nagy got her chance at
Intervisual Books with her Fuzzy Bear books. From
Czechoslovakia came the great, highly artistic books with
pop-up and novelty elements by Kveta Pacovska, described
by me in earlier reports from the Frankfurt Book Fair.
In one of the Frankfurt reports I also described my
enthusiasm for a wonderful dummy of a pop-up history of
architecture shown to me by Graham Brown (from Brown
Wells and Jacobs) but not published since it,
unfortunately, came into the market at the same time as
Ron van der Meer's Architecture Pack.
What a surprise it was this year to find in Frankfurt a
stand of the publishers Kibea from Sofia in Bulgaria who
possessed not only the rights to the acclaimed
architectural dummy but to some other dummies from the
same maker. Anton Radevsky, the paper engineer of
whom we speak, appears to be a locally well-known
illustrator who had published other (mostly adult
reference) books illustrated in an almost photographic
way. Just before the Fair the German company of
Konemann published (in ten different languages!) his first
pop-up book, The Pop-up Book of Spacecraft (3-8290-
4864-5), a title that was announced two years ago.
Kibea Publishing showed me once more the well-used
dummy of his The Wonders of Architecture, and the great
dummies of two other pop-up books for adults, done again
entirely by Radevsky (text, illustrations and paper-
engineering) but all of them still unpublished. There was an
intriguing Automobile: The Pop-up Book, offering a highly
technical view under the automobile's hood, from 1900
classics to an ultra-modern Formula 1 racing car with a
futuristic design.
A fourth design had a highly unusual theme for a pop-up
book, The History of Weapons offering an illustrated history
of both blank and firearms of all times. Swords, axes and
spears move and can even be thrown by ingenious
mechanisms. An impressive tournament of medieval knights
pops up and moves. The legendary Colt can be taken from
its case and its use in the Wild West is unraveled. The latest
police weapons and equipment are shown and their workings
demonstrated, and the achievements ofknown and unknown
weapon constructors revealed. The publisher's blurb reads,
"All mechanisms in the book are completely safe." Once
more a very desirable item and we only hope all Radevsky's
books will get published another year.
A rather memorable contact was made with the
Publishing House Petr T. Annenkov from the former Soviet
Republic of Uzbekistan. They showed a not-too-bad fan-
folded pop-up book Uzbek Fairy Tale: The Clever Daughter,
done in the Slavic style of illustration as we know from
Kubasta, and also borrowing from him the built-in movable
parts. When I tried to buy a copy of the book (it would have
been a rather exotic item in the collection), they shameless
asked $300 US for it, since "the young republic needed
foreign valutas." In further inquiry I learned that this price
was without any right of reproduction as I had thought for a
moment that might explain the extremely high price!
The most unexpected find, however, was at the stand of
a Polish publisher. As far as I know, in the past Poland did
not do any pop-up book publishing, as the publisher I spoke
with, admitted. But now out of nothing comes a beautiful
pop-up book, done in bold red, blue, and green colors
partially heightened with gold as known from Russian (or
Slovakian) folk art. It is a terrific item, engineered by the
Polish architect Mrs. Alma Sacowska, illustrated by Artur
Lobus and published as Szopka Krakowska (Krakow Nativity
Scene) (88-7162-706-8) by the publishing house of
Siedmiorog in Wroclaw, Poland. It has a retail price of a
mere $20.00! Imagine a double-tied carousel book in the
style of Keith Moseley's Victorian Doll House, with an extra
text booklet laid in the front cover opening into a bright
traditional Polish stable but looking more like a three
stacked palace with arcades and balconies crowned by
"onion" towers that slide out above. The front cover contains
another, bigger middle tower in two parts that has to be put
on the front of the stable and completes the whole. Including
the set-up golden "onion" and its bold red spire, the book
measure about 80 centimeters high. Another 16 press-out
figures complete the book.
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The production of 25,000 copies of the book was (still)
done in Colombia. It is really something completely
different from what has been seen until now in the world
of pop-up books! It is highly collectible indeed. Since it is
difficult to get a Polish book in your local bookshop, I
have made an arrangement with the publisher and he will
send copies directly to the members of the Movable Book
Society. Order by e-mail from <biuro@siedmiorog.pl>
referring to this publication and the publisher will send
you a parcel with the book and an accompanying invoice.
Promise to remit payment immediately! Payment by credit
card is not possible.
When these are just the first signals of what we can
anticipate from eastern Europe, it could well be that a
"third golden age of movable books" will come from there.
Frankfurt Book Fair, continued from page 3
The Names
The difficulty in getting the more elaborate
(collectable) pop-up books published was reflected in the
absence of several big names in this year's Fair. In
random order and without any pretense of completeness
we review the people who make pop-ups. From the great
old man in paper engineering, Keith Moseley, we saw
some dummies at Aladdin Children's Books that we had
seen there last year, The Haunted House, The Enchanted
Castle and The Traditional 1 9th Century Farm. They are
highly innovative but are still unpublished.
Ron van der Meer was completely absent. Last year
his newest titles were displayed in the showcases at the
stand ofTango Books. Rumors abounded about an internal
reorganization within the company, but we couldn't verify
it. [See "Whizz and the Web" in this issue.] After the
Formula 1 Pack, Van der Meer Books published only the
Parascience Pack ( 1 -9024 1 3-52-0), written by Uri Geller;
The Cook Pack (1-902413-38-5), in cooperation with the
well-known BBC cook Gary Rhodes; and Drug Aware:
Every Person 's Guide to Understanding Drugs (1-902413-
35-0). Unfortunately all three are of diminishing interest for
pop-up lovers.
Robert Sabuda had two new "Young Naturalist Pop-up
Handbooks," done with his partner Matthew Reinhart and
published by Hyperion Books. Unfortunately the company
didn't bring either of them to the Fair, so I haven't seen
them yet, Beetles (07868-0557-9) and Butterflies (0-7868-
0558-7). Simon and Schuster announced for next fall a
Sabuda interpretation of The Night before Christmas.
James Diaz, attending the Fair with his company White
Heat, told us he would be at the Bologna Children's Book
Fair in spring 2002 with some new projects. He showed the
design of a cover for a new Chuck Murphy pop-up book,
Animal Babies: A to Z.
An unconventional, funny Flapdoodle Dinosaurs: A
Colorful Pop-up Book (0-689-84643-6) by David Carter
was shown at the stand of Simon and Schuster. From him I
saw also Old Mac Donald Had a Farm: Pop-up Book (0-439-
26468-5) published under the Scholastic imprint of
Cartwheel Books.
At Macmillan's (it is always difficult to have a peek at
their new projects) I saw at least one great new pop-up,
Alice's Theatre Wonderland Book, illustrated by Alex
Viking, designed and paper engineered by Nick Denchfield.
The "book" opens into a complete toy theater with a pop-up
book built in. The spreads of the book appear, when opened,
to be the scenery in which, successively, all the scenes of the
Alice story can be played by the use of loose figures on
sliding strips. There is an accompanying Alice 's Book of
Play Scenes with the complete texts of the plays to perform.
A great item and for me one of the best designs I have seen
this year. It will be out next fall.
Bruce Foster did the paper engineering for Marjorie
Priceman's version of Little Red Riding Hood {0-689-83 1 16-
1 ), this year's "Classic Collectible Pop-up" from Simon and
Schuster. This company also announced a new book from
Carla Dijs, Mommy, what if...? (0-689-84692-4), to be
published in April.
Kees Moerbeek had two new "Roly Poly Box Books"
published by Child's Play, Little Box of Horrors (0-85953-
842-7) and Countdown to Christmas (0-85953-844-3), like
the three earlier titles in this innovative series reprinted in
the new, larger size of 85 x 85 x 85 mm. Simon and
Schuster announced a promising Moerbeek interpretation of
the classic fairytale. The Diary of Hansel andGretel (0-689-
84602-9) to come in the summer of 2002.
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David Hancock's company didn't have a stand this
year, though he himself was spotted at the Fair.
Unfortunately I didn't meet him, so I don't know what his
new books will be.
Jan Pienkowski popped up with several new books. I
have seen the dummies of Pizza: A Yummy Pop-up, Two
by Two: A Pop-up To Sing To, and Goodnight, all to come
out next year from Walker Books.
At Matthew Price's stand was The Cat with 9 Lives
with paper artwork by Steve Augarde and Helen Balmer,
including a great remake of the well-known pop-up of a
cat rowing a boat out of the mouth of a huge whale as
done by Harold Lentz (but here not credited for it) in his
1930s Pinocchio. Steve Augarde proves to be a hard
worker. He is one of my favorite engineers because of his
seemingly simple but tricky techniques. He showed at
Matthew Price's the dummies for First Week in
Playschool, reflecting that experience in a fun way, and
Garage, with a great folding door and an astonishing car
lift operated innovatively by the turn of a wheel at the
bottom of the page. He recently also published a series of
four turn- wheel ies, Monster Books, teaching basic
concepts like opposites, colors, shapes and numbers.
Part 2 of this article
will be the May issue
W all v Hunt, continued from page 2
W: Yes, Eitel-McCullough, the electronic tube
manufacturer in San Bruno, that made the radar tubes,
also made radio-transmitting tubes and they set up the
first FM station in Northern California. The transmitter
was on Mount Diablo across the Bay. I was disc jockey
there for about six months.
K: And then you went into advertising, right? How did
that happen?
W: Yes, then I came to Los Angeles and met a friend of
mine, Jack McNaughton. He was in the agency business
and we formed our own advertising agency in 1948.
K: So when you joined with your friend, you went in as
one of the creative talents coming up with ideas, and —
W: Our agency consisted of the two of us, so we had to be
very creative and do a little bit of everything.
K: What was the name of the agency?
W: Well, this is so funny. We were a couple of kids and
we wanted to sound important, so we chose the name
Consolidated Advertising Agency. It was a good name for a
gravel company. Later, we merged with another fellow and
we became Vanderboom-Hunt-McNaughton. That was a
pretty good advertising name. J. Walter Thompson isn't bad
either. But we split up and I started W.H. Hunt and
Associates, and I was quite successful. The hot rod
movement had just started here in southern California. A
fellow named Bob Peterson came out with Hot Rod
Magazine, Motor Trend, Motor Life, and so on. We did a lot
of mail order advertising in those magazines.
K: We're talking about two-dimensional advertising at this
time?
W: Yes, that's all. But we were quite successful and
eventually I had the first agency in the country that had
Volkswagen as a client. In 1956, I sold my agency to
Compton Advertising of New York, which is one of the
major New York agencies, and became the manager of their
Los Angeles operation. I worked very hard developing
Volkswagen, but we lost that account in 1960. I was really
disgusted because the agency business was like quicksand.
That's advertising. How do you get a competitive advantage?
A friend of mine and I formed a company called Graphics
International. I went to Japan and convinced two of the three
largest Japanese printers that we could sell their printing in
the United States. This was fifteen years after the war and
only McGraw-Hill was printing in Japan because they were
printing in the Japanese language. I brought this to show
you. Publishers Weekly put out a special issue on the Orient,
the Asia-Pacific 2000, and they wanted a picture of me. So
I dug around and came up with this one. This is a catalog of
all the printers and printer's reps in Japan, Taiwan, Hong
Kong, Singapore and Korea.
K: Were you married at that time?
W: Oh yes. I married in '52. Now, this is another side of my
life. I married a girl at work at Eitel-McCullogh six months
before I went overseas in 1944. As happened so often in
those days, that didn't last very long. So I came back and
married almost the first girl I met. We had a big reunion,
and a fellow said to me, "Did you know Marcia Wolf?" And
I said, "Did I know her? I married her." And he said, "How
long were you married?" And I said, "About fifteen
minutes." Then I met Pat, whom you'll meet tonight. We've
been married for 47 years. And that's that side of the story.
K: How many children do you have Wally?
W: I have three. One by the second marriage, Marcia Lois,
and Pat and I have two daughters.
K: I know the name Kim because David (Carter) talked
about her.
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W: Kim and Jamie. And Jamie could be here today. Kim
and her family are living in Springville, which is north of
Bakersfield, near Portersville.
K: So, do we define you as a businessperson or creative
person first?
W: I think my strength is actually to do both, hand in
hand. I'm a creative businessman. Let me give you an
illustration. When I started the pop-up book business with
Random House Books, they were all one size and one
shape. And when I developed the Hallmark line of pop-up
books, they were basically one size and one shape. When
I started Intervisual in 1974, everybody said why are you
doing this, because Hallmark and Random House already
have the business. When you look around this room, you
will see that they really didn't have all the business and
you also won't see many of that one original size. You
have to be creative to develop new formats, new ideas, and
new panoramas. So that's my innovation, a creative
businessman.
K: I don't think a person starts an advertising agency and
succeeds unless there is that creativity.
W: In the advertising business it's absolutely the same
thing. You have to be creative. To survive you have to be
a mail order expert, a television expert, a public relations
person — you have to be all things to all people. And the
minute you come up with a great campaign they want to
know what's the next idea. It's a tough business, but
challenging.
K: When you started Graphics International, was there a
thought of dimensional work?
W: No, not then. We had a Max Factor calendar in
sixteen languages. We produced it in Japan and shipped
it around the world. But that's the whole point. After a
year, we found out that if it was a really big printing job,
we could do it cheaper in Chicago. There were too many
headaches - the communications. So, I had to find a
solution. Then I saw the Czechoslovakian books, the
Kubastas. Roger Schlesinger was importing them here and
the minute I saw those I said, "My God, there's the
answer." It became obvious that the only thing we could
do successfully in Japan was something that was labor
intensive, because labor costs were very cheap. So, being
an advertising man, when I saw Czechoslovakian books,
I said there it is: magazine inserts, supermarket displays
and all. So I started an industry.
K: Did you do any pop-up books at that time?
W: I wanted to do books, but I couldn't. It took me five
years to get a publisher to buy eight pop-up books. But I
was so successful with the commercial pop-ups that I had to
move my company to New York. We were also doing a lot
with Hallmark - greeting cards, table decorations,
dimensional displays.
K: Could you tell me about a three-dimensional advertising
project from that time of which you were particularly proud?
W: Oh yes. We did. I have a scrapbook full of all of this. I'll
show you. We have some of it on display. Look at this 3-D
electric typewriter.
K: Yes, I thought that was marvelous. So that was actually
a selling tool, a pop-up salesman's sample?
W: Sure. I mean they couldn't carry the typewriter around.
It was this big and just opens up like that. And we did the
Wrigley Zoo for Wrigley Chewing Gum.
K: Are those the pop-ups that appeared in Jack and Jill
Magazine!
W: Right, Jack and Jill. I think we did thirteen of those
inserts at a million each. We bought them for seven cents
and sold them for eleven cents a unit. That's what started my
moving the company to New York. And the big turning
point on books was Bennett Cerfs Pop-Up Riddles for
Random House, supposedly using his jokes - which we
wrote. (Everyone laughs.) They were corny. "Why does a
duck fly south?" "Because it's too far too walk." "What
happens to a duck when it flies upside down?" "It quacks
up." Anyway, we did that book. We sold a hundred thousand
to General Foods as a premium.
K: Yes, I think it was an instant Maxwell House book.
W: We paid Bennett Cerf a royalty of 1 1 cents per book. He
was so thrilled with the book he bought fifty thousand for
Random House, and that was the start of the revolution in
pop-up books. Within two years we did 33 books, I think.
K: Did you know Bennett Cerf personally?
W: Yes I did, and I worked with Chris Cerf, his son. He
worked with us quite well. He's been with Sesame Street for
years in New York and now has his own television show.
K: And then Riddles was followed by Bennett Cerfs Silliest
Riddles and Bennett Cerfs Limericks. Were all those written
by your group?
W: My group.
K: Were any of them actually written or collected by Bennett
Cerf?
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W: No. Bennett Cerf did nothing - he was too busy and
the chairman of Random House and appearing in the TV
show "What's My Line." Everybody remembers him from
that.
K: So the Random House Classics Series was really dear
to your heart . . .
W: Yes. Let me tell you an interesting story about that.
The first books we did using our internal artists, my own
staff. Then we got to New York and used a couple outside
artists, and the first thing I knew, these guys were going
to every publisher in New York, saying "I'm the guy who
did the pop-up books." I said, "Boy, I've got to stop that."
I was looking for the competitive advantage. I had the
only gig in town. I was producing books for Random
House, and I didn't want the other publishers jumping in.
So I moved all the art production back to the Elgin Davis
Studios in Los Angeles. Elgin was my original partner and
he did 20 books in his studio including Human Body, all
the Classics.
K: You know, his isn't a name I recall being on the books.
I remember Albert Miller and Paul Taylor being given
credit on many of those books.
W: Davis' name never appeared anywhere. But he had the
number one commercial art studio west of Chicago. He
was co-founder of Graphics International. Albert Miller,
I think, wrote the text for most of the Random House
books.
K. Davis was doing the actual artwork?
W: His studio did the artwork, and they did it in a manner
that would make anyone in the business today cringe. He
had some artists painting the backgrounds, some doing the
people — that's how we were able to get books out fast.
They were a team.
K: You were the Henry Ford of the pop-up world.
W: What happens to us today is we hire an artist to do a
book and sometimes it takes him over four months to do
the art, and they do the whole thing. So it was a little bit
like these people were going to the Orient and painting
old masters with a whole assembly line of people. But they
came out extremely well
K: They're great books.
W: And there has seldom been an operation like that.
Well, there are the Meggendorfers and the Nisters. Nister
did that because you almost never saw anyone credited
with the art in the Nisters. He had different people doing
different pieces and putting it together.
K: And weren't Gwen Gordon and Dave Chambers artists
on your Random House series?
W: Yes, they worked for Elgin Davis.
K: And Paul Taylor - was he doing the engineering?
W: Paul was a designer and illustrator - a very creative guy.
We had paper engineers. lb Penick was one.
K: Oh, there's a great name.
W: lb was a genius and the father of modern paper
engineering. I probably kept Graphics International as the
only game in town for ten years by taking it out of New York
and bringing it back to Los Angeles. I'd say it was at least
ten years, 1975, before other publishers started publishing
pop up books. And I took both the Random House and the
Hallmark books overseas and sold them to international
publishers in Italy, France and Germany. I started that in
1 967, 1 969. By 1 980, Random House was out of the business
and Hallmark was out of the business. And I was dealing
with 20 publishers in the United States, producing books. In
1 964, 1 moved Graphics International to New York. In 1966
Hallmark bought Graphics International and I moved the
company to Kansas City in 1969.
K: What did you do in Kansas City? It seems that whatever
you were doing, you were usually the head of it.
W: And I was. I continued as the President of Graphics
International, but we were owned by Hallmark.
K: It seems you had a lot of independence even though you
were under the banner of Hallmark?
W: Right. I had to give up the books I had done for Random
House. When I got to Kansas City, Hallmark said we want
you to create a line of pop-up books for us, which put
Hallmark in conflict with Random house. So I gave up all
the rights to those books to Random House. A fellow named
Jerry Harrison continued with Random House. So I lost my
right hand man.
K: Okay, I need to go back a little bit. Do I have it straight
that lb Penick worked on the Random House Classics series?
W: Yes. He was terrific. He was the premier paper engineer
of the company. Tor Lokvig was Ib's protege.
K: Oh, is that right? So did you meet Tor at that time too?
Was he working with Id then?
W: He joined us. lb came with me in 1962 and I think Tor
probably joined us then, and when I moved the company to
New York in 64, I moved them and their families. Tor is
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now doing freelance work for Intervisual
Communications, our sister company in Santa Monica,
with his Tor's daughter, Noelle. Dave Carter met Noelle
at Intervisual and they were married.
K: In 1967, you did Andy Warhol 's Index Book. That was
early on.
W: Christopher Cerf was the man at Random House who
was responsible for that book. We were concerned when
we did the Warhol because we were owned by Hallmark at
that time and Mr. Hall wouldn't have approved of that,
I'm sure. Copies of the Andy Warhol book now sell for
$800 to $1,000. We also did the Pornographies. Are you
familiar with Pornographies? They had acetate overlays
K: Yes, I've seen it, the satire on the art classics, the old
masters. I probably have it now.
W: That was one of the unusual classics.
K: It's clever; it's funny. Then Dr. Doolittle came out and
that book had Hallmark on it so some arrangements must
have been made.
W: That book and Chitty Chitty Bang Bang are the only
two books that Hallmark and Random House have done
cooperatively. Hallmark sold them in the greeting card
stores and Random House in the book trades. So there are
some of those books with Random House on it and others
with Hallmark on it. The Hallmark version was also sold
overseas. Bob Bernstein, who was actually running
Random House, took me to lunch at the Four Seasons in
New York and said, "Wally, I know that you have been
asked to move to Kansas City, but we would like you to
join Random House instead and I very sincerely think that
I can sell the idea of your handling the book trade and
Hallmark handling the greeting cards." I assured him that
I believed I could put these two companies together. But,
of course, when I arrived in Kansas City, I learned that
Hallmark was not going to share any market with Random
House. Still, it was a great idea and it would have worked
beautifully.
K: So you were in Kansas City with Pat? Did you have
children then?
W: Yes, when we moved to Kansas City, Kim was eleven
and Jamie was nine.
K: Let me put it bluntly. It's hard for me to imagine you
in Kansas City.
W: Well that's because you don't know Kansas City. We
lived in Shawnee Mission, Kansas. You know, there is one
street that divides Missouri and Kansas. Shawnee Mission
was comparable to Hillsborough or Bel Air. It was absolutely
beautiful. We had a mansion.
K: So you liked Kansas City?
W: The weather is terrible, but it was a good experience. We
also like Scarsdale, New York where we lived for five years.
K: It sounds as though you like where you are at the time.
W: Yes, we are pretty good at liking where we are — where
you develop friends. Hallmark is a wonderful company. I am
a maverick, always have been, so Kansas City wasn't a good,
permanent place for me. They have Hall's Department store,
which is the best department store in Kansas City. They also
take care of your insurance. It's like you are in the womb
when you are in Kansas City. But I was never really
accepted. Graphics International was never in the main
Hallmark building. We were in a special building downtown
so that we did not contaminate them. Anyway, it was a great
experience, but I had been in business for myself for most of
my life and secretly wanted to be on my own again.
K: You say that you're a bit of a maverick - you like to be in
charge. You're an idea person and you know where you
want to go.
W: Yes, definitely, and we put out some nice books in
Kansas City.
K: You were producing in Japan at that time?
W: In Japan, but the labor costs were going up. We started
in 1960, and by 1970, labor was prohibitive so I started in
1968 in Columbia, South America and in Singapore.
K: When you were searching for places to produce books,
were you physically getting on planes and talking to people
or did you send people? How does that work?
W: 1 did a lot of traveling. In 1969, I traveled for six
months. I was producing in Singapore, some in Japan, some
in Columbia, South America, and I also set up production in
Italy. I used to go to New York and then to Paris, London,
then Munich, Verona, and then back home.
K: And your children were small at that time so they
probably could not travel a lot.
W: No, not a lot, but I took the whole family to Japan in
1966, and I took them to Europe in 1967, and in 1968 we hit
all the spots.
K: Since your children have grown, has Pat been able to
attend the Bologna Book Fair with you?
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W: Many, many years, both Bologna and Frankfurt.
K: So those are good memories?
VV: Yes, and I can't even get her to fly to Hawaii now. She
is done. No more airports.
K: In the weeks leading up to Bologna, when you are
getting ready for the Fair, what is it like here at
Intervisual? You mentioned that usually you are taking
products to show. What is it like in the prep time?
W: It's like the rest of our business; it's all done at the last
minute.
K: It's a little bit wild then?
W: Yes it's wild. The cycle is very long. It's almost a year
from concept to the finished book going to press. We may
take 30 new books to Bologna, but these aren't in finished
form. We make prototypes of our new books and take
them over and sell them to the publishers. When we have
sufficient acceptance, then we go ahead and finish the
books and deliver them in the fall of the next year. We do
the same thing in Frankfurt.
K: So that is the very important time when you find out
which products you will take into production?
W: Yes. We may have 30 new books, but we also sell our
back list and reprints of the books that they have bought
in the past. Fifty per cent of our business is done each year
with reprints, backlists — such as reprints of Haunted
House. We have produced over 1,300 books. Probably 300
of them are still active, still being reordered from these
different countries. For example, we have been selling
Sailing Ships for 1 8 years and we will still get a couple of
orders on it. If we can get a total of 10,000 for a book,
then we can reprint it.
K: Is that what a printing needs to look like?
W: A few years ago it was 20,000, now it is down to
1 0,000. It used to be that we wouldn't even do a new book
unless we could anticipate a 100,000 print run. Now it's
30,000.
K: And that is a profitable number?
W: It can be, yes.
K: Why has it changed?
Part two of this interview will
continue in the May issue
Questions and Answers
Q. Did you know that at this time of year the studios spend
great sums of money trying to convince members of the
academy to vote for their movies? Two issues of the
Hollywood Reporter contain wonderful pop-ups touting
Shrek. The first pop-up appeared in the November 1 9, 200 1
issue. The other pop-up, which also contains a star that
lights up, was in the December 1 7, 200 1 issue. Back issues
are available for $5.50 each and may be obtained by writing
to the Hollywood Reporter, 5055 Wilshire Blvd., Los
Angeles, CA 90036-4396. Attn: Back issues department.
Frank Gagliardi
Plainville, Connecticut
Q. Where's Robert Sabuda? Check his new web site at
<www.robertsabuda.com>. Log on for sneak peeks of
Robert's upcoming projects, browse the gift shop, get free
stuff, and enter contests to win signed books and original art.
Ann Montanaro
East Brunswick, New Jersey
Q. Can anyone give me any information about a book I
recently acquired. It is an French edition of Gulliver's
Travels from about 1 850 and it has removable illustrations.
It is shown on my web site at: <www.popuplady.com>.
Ellen Rubin
Scarsdale, New York
Q. Have you seen the play with a pop-up book? An article
in The New Yorker (November 1 3, 2000) described Sir Peter
Hall's adaptation of John Barton's epic ten-play cycle
"Tantalus," which traces the Trojan War. The 13 -hour
marathon staged in Denver, included a scene "where the
sacking of Troy is described. . . The Storyteller opens a pop-
up book that shows Troy's parapets then sets the book on
fire."
Rachel Kopel
San Diego, CA
Q^ A reader has a pop-up display for Babette Cole's
Doubleday book Don 't Go Out Tonight. It is a 13 x 20-inch
cardboard display and the pop-up section is 12 x 8'/ 2 inches.
If you are interested, please contact me and I will refer you
to the reader.
Ann Montanaro
Q. I recently purchased a product called Glue Dots, "super-
sticky, double-sided, pressure-sensitive adhesive" dots. They
are "permanent and acid free" and look like they could be
used for simple pop-up repairs. Has anyone had any
experience with them?
Anne Williams
Lewiston, Maine
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Q. I have an incomplete copy of an article entitled
"Jonathan Miller, man of all trades, pops up with a new
book about 77*5 Facts of Life. " From the copy 1 cannot
identify the original publication. The article began on
page 1 1 land ended on page 114. If anyone has pages 1 12
and 113, and the name of the journal where the article
appeared, I would appreciate receiving copies of the
missing pages or the full citation.
Ann Montanaro
Day and Night. (Pop-Up Prayers Series). February. $7.99.
18 pages. Augsburg Fortress Publishers.
0-80664-368-4.
Also: The Food We Eat. 0-80664-371-4.
People Who Love Us. 0-80664-369-2.
The World Around Us. 0-80664-370-6.
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Diary of Hansel and Gretel. By Kees Moerbeek. April. 12 co
pages. Little Simon. $12.95. 0-68984-602-9.
Q. The newsletter announced before the New York
convention last year that Simon & Schuster was running
a contest for unpublished pop-up artists to submit a book
proposal and, if chosen, the artist would have it published.
Was a winner selected?
Lin Sasman
Boston, Massachusetts
Easter Egg Hunt. Little
Simon. 8 x 8". $5.99.
0-68984-566-9.
Farm Machines Pop Up. By
Jane Wolfe February. £4.99.
Orchard Books (UK).
1-84322-046-6.
Catalogs Received
Books of the Ages. Catalogue #30. Gary J. Overmann.
Maple Ridge Manor. 4764 Silverwood Dr., Batavia, Ohio
45103. Phone: 513-732-3456.
Jo Ann Reisler, Ltd. Catalogue 56. 360 Glyndon St., NE,
Vienna VA. Phone:703-938-2967. Fax: 703-938-9057.
Email: Reisler@clark.net.
http://www.clarke.net/pub/reisler
New Publications
The following titles
have been identified from
pre-publication publicity,
publisher's catalogs, or
advertising. All titles
include pop-ups unless
otherwise identified.
Big Dig: A Pop-up
Construction. By Paul
Stickland. May Ragged Bears. 1 1 x 9". 7 spreads.
1 -929927-4 1-x. $16.95.
Big Machines Pop Up. February. £4.99. Orchard Books
(UK). 1-84322-045-8.
Clifford I Love You Pop-up. By Norman Bridwell.
$7.99. 10 pages. 8'/ 2 x 8'/ 2 ". Scholastic. 0-439-36774-3.
[This is a large reprint of the 1994 book Clifford's Tiny
Pop-up I Love You. J
Funny Farm: A Mix-Up Pop-Up
Book. By Keith Faulkner,
Jonathan Lambert (Illustrator).
March. 5 pages. $7.95 .Cartwheel
Books (Scholastics).
0-43930-904-2.
Also: Jumbled Jungle: A Mix-Up
Pop-Up Book. 0-43930-90^-4.
Hop on Pop-Up. By Dr. Seuss. April. $6.99. Random
House .0-37581-547-3.
Mommy, what if. . . ? By
Carla Dijs. April. 14
pages. $8.99. Little
Simon. 0-68984-692-4.
Mouse House: An
Extravagant Lift-the-Flap
Hide-and-Seek Adventure!
May. Handprint Books. 10
x 10". 7 spreads. $12.95.
1-929766-42-4.
Mouse in the House: Pop-Up Playset. $16.95. Piggy Toes
Press. 1-58117-156-0.
The Pop-up Commotion in the Ocean. By Giles Andreae.
May. 14 pages. Orchard Books (UK). Amazon price
£9.99. 1-84121-738-7.
Valentine 's Day at the Zoo. 7 x 8". Little Simon. $5.99.
0-68984-567-7.
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